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Village of Maryville, Illinois

Description Caucus Meeting
Date3/28/2007 Location Council Chamber
Time Speaker Note
6:30:07 PM Gulledge Called the Caucus meeting of Wednesday, March 28, 2007 to order and invited those in attendance to join in the Pledge of Allegiance. After the Pledge, he asked for a roll of those officers present. Answering the roll call were Trustees Limberg, Schmidt, Callahan, Kostyshock and Garcia; Bell was absent. Also in attendance were Deputy Clerk Fenton, Public Works Director Presson, Police Chief Schardan, Police Officer Kanzler, three (3) citizens and three (3) reporters.
6:30:55 PM Gulledge Called for approval of the March 14th Caucus minutes. He asked if there were any questions, additions or subtractions to the minutes as prepared by the Clerk. There were none. Motion to approve was made by Schmidt and seconded Limberg. Voting on the motion: Limberg - yes; Schmidt - yes; Callahan - yes; Kostyshock - yes; Garcia - yes. Motion carried.
6:31:17 PM Wigginton Arrived and was seated.
6:31:35 PM Gulledge Went to first two agenda items, Purchase of One Radar Unit, and Three (3) In-Car Cameras, and asked Schardan and Callahan to discuss.
6:31:54 PM Callahan Stated they had a meeting Monday regarding Police Department needs. Explained there is a problem with the radar units, as they are designed to pick up the closest moving object and the dynamic has now changed with the new four (4) lane highway. Stated this necessitates the need for a different radar unit. Stated the second item is in-car cameras. Explained these cameras are necessary to prove events happen in a certain way and serve as protection for both the police officers and citizens.
6:33:39 PM Schardan Explained the radar unit on the agenda is the same one they are buying from Decatur through the State bid. Stated the price is about the same at $1,409. Explained the need for the extra unit is due to the addition of the Mayor's old vehicle as an extra squad car. Explained once this is finished, they will be done equipping all units. Explained the radar unit Callahan referred to is a hand-held unit. Stated they had the unit on loan to test for approximately one month. Stated it is a Lidar unit, which sends out the laser beams and can pin-point a single vehicle. Stated the cost is approximately $2,800. Callahan commented the way it was explained to him, the units are needed. Schardan answered it would be nice to have at least one, although they are expensive. Went on to explain the current hand-held units are old and have been sent for repairs numerous times.
6:35:30 PM Gulledge Asked if this is in addition to what is listed on the agenda.
6:35:34 PM Schardan Answered yes.
6:35:40 PM Callahan Asked do they still need the one on the agenda.
6:35:45 PM Schardan Answered yes. Explained the one on the agenda is the Decatur unit which sits on the dash board.
6:35:58 PM Gulledge Asked that they focus on the agenda items first. Clarified the radar unit is a cost of $1,409 on a State bid. Clarified the unit is needed. Rich concurred. Gulledge asked for any questions. There were none. All were in favor to add the item to the Board meeting agenda. Went to next item, three (3) in-car camera units. Clarified these are $4,995 per unit, for a total cost of $14,985. Asked for any questions.
6:37:03 PM Callahan Commented there is a unit that is cheaper and one that is a lot more. Stated the unit they are interested in has a front and rear camera; the cheaper is only a front camera. Also, this particular unit uses a standard DVD drive, and the other two units use a proprietary drive that can only be fixed by the manufacturer. Commented the result of the research was that this unit with a second camera for this price was the best available option.
6:38:24 PM Gulledge Clarified that the plan is to get rid of the Martel units and use the units being discussed now in their place.
6:38:34 PM Schardan Explained there was some inherent problem with the Sony camera part of the Martel units causing them both to lock up and they are unable to get the tapes out. Stated these purchases will replace the two Sony cameras, and the third will be for the seventh car.
6:39:05 PM Schmidt Asked if the units in which they plan to install these cameras are assigned or multi-purpose used by various officers.
6:39:19 PM Schardan Explained everybody has an assigned car. Stated he has been trying to keep the new cars received to one person, as he believes they get approximately six months more out of warranty this way. Stated after the car is out of warranty they switch the unit to use by two officers.
6:39:47 PM Gulledge Asked if there were further questions regarding the camera units. There were none. Stated the item will be placed on the Board meeting agenda. Complimented the committee on the work done in demonstrating exactly where the money is coming from.
6:40:28 PM Callahan Asked regarding the third item, did Schardan want more than one.
6:40:39 PM Schardan Stated two would be nice but at least one with which to get started.
6:40:48 PM Gulledge Asked where the funds would be coming from.
6:40:55 PM Schardan Stated there was enough in line 830 of Appropriations for equipment.
6:41:08 PM Gulledge Commented there is a difference between appropriations and budget.
6:41:17 PM Callahan Commented he "busted" the budget in the first days of the fiscal year, and does not mind doing so again at the end of the fiscal year.
6:41:34 PM Limberg Asked if the unit would be used inside or outside the vehicle.
6:41:42 PM Schardan Stated they will be able to use it from the vehicle if they are sitting in it. Stated it is a better procedure to have two officers working with one shooting the laser gun and the other chasing down the violator. Explained the vehicle is portable and can be moved from car to car.
6:42:04 PM Limberg Clarified the unit can be held and carried outside the vehicle.
6:42:12 PM Schardan Concurred, and explained the officers tried it standing on the Interstate overpass and were able to pick up people.
6:42:26 PM Gulledge Asked the cost.
6:42:28 PM Schardan Answered approximately $2,800. Stated it is called a Lidar radar unit made by LTI, which is the same company from which they are obtaining the cameras.
6:42:50 PM Gulledge Asked the Trustees opinion. There was some question as to whether the money is available in the budget. Gulledge asked Callahan if he could find the funds within the budget by the next meeting.
6:43:28 PM Callahan Commented they can look at it. Asked Schardan where they are on salaries. Schardan commented they are under budget; however union negotiations will affect the number. Callahan commented his opinion it does not look like the money will come out this year. Further commented there are probably other areas with available funds.
6:44:00 PM Limberg Commented he can see where it would be beneficial.
6:44:06 PM Callahan Commented they did not anticipate the problems they have encountered with the four lanes. Stated unforeseen expenses necessitate amending the budget. Stated he believes this equipment is necessary and is willing to recommend amendment if they have to. Concluded that they will make an attempt to find the funds.
6:45:13 PM Schmidt Commented regarding wages and salaries: The Police Department has not used quite 3/4 of the budget.
6:45:36 PM Gulledge Commented that is misleading because of the union. All agreed to put the item on the agenda.
6:45:51 PM Callahan Asked Kanzler and Schardan to work on the numbers and use Schmidt's help if needed.
6:45:59 PM Schardan Thanked Kanzler for all the work put in for the research of the equipment and dealing with the sales people and demonstrations.
6:46:22 PM Callahan Stated he would like to bring up another item that will be up for discussion in the future. Stated a lot of information shows after obtaining 65-70,000 miles on a police car it should be retired because they lose their value very quickly after that point. Stated they currently have two units in excess of 65,000 miles. Stated due to the hiring of another officer, there are now three units that are close to or over the mileage limit and a new one. Explained they would like the Board to consider lease payments next year. Stated this will get them out of the cycle of cars with too many miles. Stated they plan to figure out a way to come up with a three or four year deal to put in the budget. Commented last year they spoke about amortizing out some of the road and building projects; it would be same with these cars.
6:47:49 PM Gulledge Stated they are not against the idea, and they should put it in the budget for presentation. Asked for other questions for the Chief.
6:47:58 PM Kostyshock Commented on the great job being done by the Police Department. Commented on the efforts in talking to the community and visibility in neighborhoods. Commented on the initiative along West Main to stop speeding cars during school hours. Commented he spoke with some people who got tickets, but the officers were so nice they really didn't mind.
6:48:40 PM Schardan Appreciates the comments. Commented on an e-mail received from Officer Carpenter regarding the "Catch the Kids" campaign. Explained Carpenter had a complaint about three kids skateboarding in the parking lot of Woodcrest Apartments. He explained the kids were in the age range of seven to nine. Stated the kids were very disappointed when he told them they had to stop; however their eyes lit up when Carpenter offered each of them a wiffle ball set.
6:49:36 PM Gulledge Thanked Schardan and Kanzler for their input. Went to the next items on the agenda, and asked Presson and Kostyshock to discuss.
6:49:53 PM Presson Stated the first item is Pay Request #4 for Petroff Trucking for $71,003.41 for work completed through March 23, 2007.
6:50:20 PM Kostyshock Commented they are making headway on the project.
6:50:28 PM Presson Concurred and commented if the weather holds out they will see definite progress within the next couple weeks. Stated they had a meeting with Petroff last week; their status is they will do clean up and general finish items in the Donk, Second, Third Street areas and then move down Lange. Stated barring any problems, they should have the binder coat down in that part of town and down Lange by Homecoming.
6:50:57 PM Gulledge Commented they had a good meeting. Stated they impressed upon the contractor that good fill must be used in yards. Commented most of the debris has been removed, and they continue to finish up. Stated the Village will be providing dirt out of the detention basin from the lake dredging project for peoples' yards. Asked if there were any questions on Pay Application #4. There were none. Stated the item will be placed on the Board meeting agenda.
6:51:51 PM Presson Went to next item, 2007-08 MFT Street Maintenance Appropriation for $200,000. Stated included in the packets is a list of work that is to be completed.
6:52:24 PM Gulledge Commented on one change to the list, which has been distributed to the Board.
6:52:34 PM Presson Stated Schmidt called looking for an explanation on the Jefferson Drive line item. Stated that was a mistake. Stated this is off of Bauer which runs just under 4,000 feet so 1,500 feet on Jefferson was unaccounted for. Stated they moved it over into Wilma which happens to work out just under 1,500 feet. Commented Wilma is the street on which St. John Neuman is located.
6:53:36 PM Gulledge Asked for any questions regarding the resolution. There were none. Explained this is an annual process. Stated they set the number a little higher in case of add-ons. Commented this is higher than what will actually be used. With no questions, stated the item will be placed on the Board meeting agenda.
6:54:23 PM Presson Went to Pay Request #2 for Korte Luitjohn for high service pump replacement in the amount of $76,922.25. Stated this project is complete and the pumps are online.
6:54:43 PM Gulledge Commented it will make a big difference in summer.
6:54:48 PM Presson Stated it has already made a big difference. Stated he is sure they will see some reduction on the electric bill. Stated the tower is running well and has had no distribution problems. Commented they are very happy with the system.
6:55:06 PM Gulledge Asked for questions. There were none. Stated the item will be placed on the Board meeting agenda.
6:55:23 PM Presson Went to next item. Stated the current generator at the water plant is 150kw. Stated they are currently in a situation where during a power outage they can either make water or pump water, but can't do both. Stated in an emergency situation they need to do both. Stated they did not realize the problem until the midst of the high service pump project. Stated he met with Juneau and J Shah as well as several different contractors to come up with a generator proposal that will be able to run the plant and give future expansion capabilities. Stated there are several different bids. Stated CK Power bid a 500 kw generator for $58,000; Okawville Electric Supply was the only labor bid received for $23,455 and are also supplying an automatic transfer switch for $5,860; for a total price for the project of $87,315. Stated the original bid for the same generator was $65,545; however they called back to request to resubmit a bid, as they had one in stock that got cancelled. Stated that is where the $58,000 figure came in.
6:57:48 PM Gulledge Clarified the Turn Key bid installed is $87,315, including the $58,000 generator.
6:58:01 PM Presson Explained that is the generator dropped off, automatic transfer, all labor included. Stated this generator will run the whole plant and per Juneau's signed letter, leave room for future expansion capabilities.
6:58:36 PM Gulledge Stated they have done a plan expansion from the original 150 purchased. Stated this becomes an issue when the plant loses power. Stated he wants to eliminate the problem.
6:59:49 PM Callahan Asked if it is run by propane.
6:59:52 PM Presson Answered no, by diesel.
6:59:58 PM Gulledge Stated it will be stationary. Stated they don't have natural gas available at the site, or they would strongly consider it.
7:00:08 PM Schmidt Asked if this will "bust" the Department's budget.
7:00:12 PM Presson Stated this work and bill will not be received until next fiscal year.
7:00:32 PM Gulledge Stated they have spent a lot of money in the Water and Sewer Department in the interest of getting ahead. Commented his opinion there will not be many more major things to do next year, but simply maintaining what they have. Commented his opinion the Village really needs this in order to avoid worry about a storm.
7:01:02 PM Presson Commented if you expect to have water during a power outage, you have to have this system; there is no choice. Commented with the current generator, they think they can buy about six (6) hours of process time.
7:01:29 PM Limberg Asked if they will do periodic tests on the system.
7:01:38 PM Presson Explained currently they run the generator 1/2 hour to one hour every week, as well as total shut down once a month to run the generator.
7:01:52 PM Gulledge Commented if the Board agrees, they plan to figure out a way to mount the 150kw generator on a trailer and make it portable for use anywhere there is a need in the Village, including the Police Station, Village Hall, lift stations, one of the nursing homes, etc.
7:02:27 PM Callahan Asked if this is manual or automatic.
7:02:33 PM Presson Stated this would be an automatic transfer switch with an alarm, which is actually a little cheaper than the manual transfer switch.
7:02:49 PM Gulledge Stated the Public Works Department is looking into what it would cost to mount the existing generator on a trailer.
7:03:10 PM Schmidt Asked when they plan to have it online.
7:03:13 PM Presson Answered the Department will pour the pad and do the prep work to the area, as it won't sit in the current location. Stated they plan to move it to the other side of the building, as it is a shorter distance and will save quite a bit of money on labor and wire. Stated with any luck they will be operational within a month and a half to two months.
7:03:47 PM Limberg Asked if they will need a separate pad for the 864 gallon tank.
7:03:51 PM Presson Answered no, they will pour one solid pad. Stated the company supplied the dimensions of the pad and required depth.
7:04:03 PM Gulledge Stated they will pay for the concrete separate. Asked if the Board was in favor of adding the item to the agenda for the Board meeting. All were. Asked for other questions for Presson.
7:04:26 PM Schmidt Asked Presson to look into timed lights in the Village Hall restrooms, as they continue to be left on.
7:05:07 PM Gulledge Agrees. Asked for other issues for Presson. There were none. Thanked Presson for his input.
7:05:50 PM Gulledge Went to next item on the agenda, Ameren request for easement for a gas line on the back of the property on the Lange side behind the fire house. Stated he met with Allen Spelldring, Senior Real Estate Agent, who explained they are moving the line for the Village so it will not be under the curb and gutter in the event they need to work on the line. Commented they currently have easements for everyone along Lange with the exception of two property owners, which he thought he would get within the next week. Asked for any questions. There were none. Stated the item will be placed on the Board Meeting agenda.
7:07:38 PM Gulledge Went to next item, Congressional Prayer Breakfast. Stated this is an annual event, which the Village normally attends. Stated this year's event will be held April 30th at 7:30 a.m. at Gateway Center. Asked the Board's approval to purchase a table of eight. Stated the event is hosted by John Shimkus and Jerry Costello. Commented anyone wanting to attend needs to let him know as soon as possible; if all spots are not taken by the Board members they take staff to fill the table. All Trustees were in favor.
7:08:28 PM Gulledge Commented last year for the 2006 Community Development Project they requested $56,000 from Madison County to do a small sewer project for thirteen properties along Northwood Drive. Explained this is the area along West Main just before the public school and the road goes into Rolling Meadows. Stated they would like to run a sewer line in the area between. Stated it is a pointing system. Stated they will hold a public Hearing on April 18, 2007 at 6:45 p.m. as one of the prerequisites of the program. Stated he is asking the Board to reapply for the funding. Stated all of these projects are low to moderate income. Stated on the map of Maryville, they have no such areas called out by the Census Bureau. Stated the only way they are eligible for funding is to do a wage survey that the County performs. Stated the only information the Village receives back is that the people either qualify as a low to moderate income household, or they don't. Stated they will have to have a survey for any other project that they have. Stated the survey done is good for the ten years of the census. Stated if a Board member thinks of another project and believes they can get a survey done in time, let him know; if not, they are going to hold the public hearing to request Madison County Community Development consider the Village of Maryville as a potential project for funds. Stated this will include ten properties/households in the Northwood and West Main neighborhood that don't have sewers available. Stated he will provide a map of the area.
7:11:42 PM Limberg Asked if that includes the Wersching property.
7:11:46 PM Gulledge Answered no. Stated only properties north of Northwood and south of West Main. Stated he will supply a map. Stated it will include one house that they believe is a low to moderate income household so they will be able to get on the sewer. Kostyshock commented there is currently one empty house there. Mayor responded they have removed that one from the scenario.
7:12:28 PM Callahan Commented a lot of the homes will have to tap on anyway once the sewer goes through. Gulledge explained if this goes through they are asking Community Development that they do the same as was asked for Williams and Drost Streets and pay for the hookups. Callahan commented there are also some homes that do not qualify, but because the line is closer than 400 feet will have to hook up anyway.
7:12:57 PM Gulledge Answered yes; however this should take care of most of the area. Asked for further questions. There were none. Went to Calendar Updates. Commented on March: Large item trash pickup is going well and has had no complaints; commented they were in his neighborhood Monday instead of Tuesday getting a head-start.
7:13:56 PM Schmidt Commented Allied granted the request to do Maryville before Collinsville in order to avoid delays, as in the past Collinsville's volume has been so great it resulted in pushing Maryville further down on the schedule.
7:14:25 PM Gulledge Concurred it is going well and commended Schmidt for his discussion regarding the request. Commented he is unaware of any complaints logged at the Village Hall. Went to April. Asked Callahan to comment on the MCIB meeting.
7:15:09 PM Callahan Stated he received an agenda that included a number of items.
7:15:16 PM Gulledge Commented on the same night John Shimkus' Traveling Help Desk will be at the Village Hall from 7:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Commented there is no Economic Development Committee meeting scheduled; the Park meeting is the 16th; commented Bell is not in attendance as his daughter is receiving a basketball award this evening; Go Fly a Kite day is scheduled the 21st at 1:00 p.m.; Planning Commission will have several items on the agenda on the 23rd. Asked for further comments. There were none.
7:16:36 PM Gulledge Went to Public Input.
7:16:46 PM Mike Drake 2501 Gecko Drive, Maryville, Illinois. Commented his opinion the camera issue for the Police Department is a great issue. Asked whether it will help from a legal standpoint for the Village.
7:17:12 PM Gulledge Answered yes. Commented they had an issue a few years ago where the camera was used to prove an officer did not conduct themselves as accused.
7:17:22 PM Drake Asked for information on the Pleasant Ridge property being sold.
7:17:34 PM Gulledge Explained there was a potential development for that property that was not working out, so he put the two entities in touch and a deal was made to sell the property to CARD. Stated this means they will have a 56 acre park in Maryville. Explained this property is just south of the walking trail over to the Interstate. Commented it is actually three parcels of ground. Commented it is getting close to closing. Stated they are hoping the Village will have some input on development of the park.
7:18:41 PM Drake Commented he is new to the Village and has never heard of CARD.
7:18:53 PM Gulledge Explained it stands for Collinsville Area Recreation District, and all of Collinsville's Township is included within it except for Maryville "proper", which was the Village of Maryville corporate limits before January, 1991. Commented the area where Drake lives pays CARD taxes.
7:19:23 PM Schmidt Displayed the property via projection from the GIS system. The area was explained in relation to where Drake lives.
7:21:07 PM Garcia Asked if CARD will keep up the property or will the Village be responsible.
7:21:11 PM Gulledge Responded his opinion it will be CARD's responsibility.
7:21:22 PM Gulledge Went to To Do List, page 1. Stated they are trying to set up a meeting with Collinsville regarding the sewer treatment bill; however it is not yet finalized. Wigginton commented he sent available dates to Jolene Henry that day, who is trying to coordinate schedules. There were no further comments. Went to page 2. There were no comments. Went to page 3. There were no comments. Went to Trustees' comments.
7:22:31 PM Schmidt Commented there have been a lot of complaints called in to the Village regarding the Old Town Roadway Improvement Project. Commented they have addressed a lot of the concerns. Commented hopefully it will all turn out for the best. Commented on the amount of time, thought and effort the Board and Public Works and Mayor has put into the project. Commented there still seems to be some concern about some of the residents in that area. Reiterated they have tried to address the concerns well. Commented he does not believe residents will be pleased and see that the Village is going in the right direction until the project is complete. Commented before proceeding further north, his hope is they do not have the same problems and concerns as the residents in the southern part of the project. Commented his understanding there is good intention on going through with the project. Commented he would ask the administration, including Kostyshock and Presson, to be patient with residents, as they have been thus far. Next, asked if they could look into the possibility of purchasing a couple of small parcels in the southern part of Old Town for use in constructing parking lots. Commented in the past when this administration has come up against a problem they have been able to come up with ingenious ideas and ways to fund resolutions. Commented his hope that can be done with this project. Commented his opinion there are good parcels of land in Old Town on corner lots that may be acquired inexpensively and would be good parking lots. Commented this might alleviate some of the parking problem they will have in this section of town.
7:25:44 PM Gulledge Responded they will be proactive. Commented the biggest problem is it is construction and people can't park in front of houses or in their driveways and it is inconvenient. Commented there have only been a few complaints; most of the residents are more understanding in that the Village is trying to solve storm water issues and curb and gutter problems and give kids, elderly and disabled residents someplace to walk/pass safely. Commented his opinion it is going to be a good project. Concurred there have been problems with the construction company, but have been trying to meet with them and hope they have a lot of the problems resolved. Stated there is always going to be complaints and non-understanding of issues. Stated they try to explain issues. Commented one of the biggest questions is the width of the road. Stated they simply have forty feet to work with. Commented they have to move utilities, including Ameren, AT&T. Commented they only had one foot to work with regarding the curbs and gutters and width of road. Commented they found out in numerous places in the community sidewalks were not in the right of way but up in people's yards. Commented in many cases they are not giving anything back to the property owner, but what they already own. Commented they have not had any complaints regarding the issue, but could have. Commented thirty to forty years ago, things were done differently. Commented his opinion it will be a good project. Commented the majority of people in the community are very happy. Commented Kostyshock, Presson, and Jones meet with and take care of every complaint. Commented he does not disagree with anything Schmidt has said. Commented when things are done, it will be a lot better. Commented on the issues with the West Main project.
7:29:31 PM Kostyshock Commented when the project is completed they will be happy. Commented they are making provisions for parking. Commented they are giving residents that want one an apron for a driveway before pouring the curb. Commented most of the residents to which he has spoken are glad they are doing it. Commented it will be an asset to the town and people.
7:29:59 PM Limberg Commented part of the problem is residents take for granted they can park on the street; however there is available parking in the back off the alley. Commented there are alternatives to parking in front of the house on the street.
7:30:23 PM Gulledge Commented they are not saying they won't be able to. Commented they know they need to straighten the alleys up for people; however they want to finish the outside construction first. Stated his hope they will get a good oil and chip base in the alleys as well, and possibly in the future consider a permanent surface.
7:31:01 PM Schmidt Stated he asked Presson whether he had received the "green light" from the Mayor to order new signage and posts. Stated Presson has a surprisingly low bid.
7:31:38 PM Gulledge Commented he does not want to install these until the permanent surface is down. Agreed they have a good price, which is approximately half of what he thought it would be. Commented it will look really nice and will improve people's property values.
7:32:05 PM Gulledge On behalf of Bell, discussed the Park recommendation distributed to the Trustees. Commented he informed the committee there was no need to send this, as they will have someone from the Village engineering Department look at it. Stated they need to review handicapped access. Went to Callahan's comments.
7:32:39 PM Callahan Revisited the discussion on the Old Town Improvement Project. Stated he voted for it. Stated his opinion is they made a mistake. Commented upon visiting the area on weekends when people are at home, they would be unable to get an emergency vehicle through. Commented his opinion they will have to disallow parking on one side or the other to protect the residents. Commented the idea of buying a piece of property for a parking lot is a good idea and should be considered. Commented his opinion that the Board is not to blame, as they are not road contractors; however he does not buy into the philosophy that it is okay. Commented he has had no positive feedback from anyone. Stated he has had people, who are not all chronic complainers, question the Board's decision on the project. Commented the south side is done; however they know they will have the same issues on the north side. Commented his opinion they got bad advice and should not have installed six-inch curbs, as at least residents would have been able to pull up on the sidewalk and park. Commented it would have been just as easy to get the easements where the sidewalks actually were as to move the sidewalks in four or five feet on each side. Commented his opinion the residents would not have had a problem leaving the sidewalks as they were. Next, commented he is very happy that CARD is buying a piece of property in Maryville in which to install a park, and thinks it is a great location; however the reason for the sales is because of the road fee. Stated Lerch figured that at $322,000 in road fees, he would not realize any profit. Commented on the individual that came to the Board asking for abatement on his road fees, which was not granted, and he subsequently put the rest of his property up for sale the very next day.
7:36:14 PM Kostyshock Commented regarding streets, once the storm sewers are in they can't go back, as the street is laid up to the sewers. Commented regarding safety, he agrees right now with construction it is an issue; however once it is done they will have all the room they need. Commented he and Presson tested the issue by parking on either side of the street and using Maryville's largest fire truck, and it was able to get through. Commented there are other areas of town with twenty foot roads and alleys through which fire trucks get through.
7:37:13 PM Callahan Argued these areas do not have curbs and gutters locking them in. Commented that they have established a fire truck can just barely make it through; however his opinion is it doesn't make sense to make the same issue on the north side of the project. Reiterated they got bad advice and need to re-visit the issue.
7:37:51 PM Kostyshock Stated they can't tear out the storm sewers and start all over again.
7:37:54 PM Callahan Commented the alternative is to make the roads narrow and tell residents they can only park on one side of the street. Asked who will make that decision.
7:38:06 PM Kostyshock Commented other towns, including Granite City, have the same size streets.
7:38:11 PM Callahan Argued they built those streets forty years ago and have not built a twenty eight foot street in Granite City in forty years.
7:38:17 PM Kostyshock Argued the point is they have them and the emergency vehicles use them. More arguments ensued.
7:39:06 PM Callahan Asked whether they should consider eliminating the curb so people could at least pull up off the street. Commented Kostyshock must agree it is a problem or he wouldn't have driven the fire truck through.
7:39:40 PM Kostyshock Commented if Callahan remembers, Kostyshock encouraged the Board to go with a V curb, and he voted for six inch curbs.
7:39:46 PM Callahan Responded he voted for Juneau who told him that was what they needed.
7:39:55 PM Kostyshock Responded he tried to talk everyone into using V curb.
7:40:01 PM Callahan Agreed. Commented if Juneau would have said it was fine, he would have voted for it; however Juneau assured them there would be plenty of room with the six inch curbs.
7:40:41 PM Garcia Asked if they could use V curbs for this part of the project.
7:40:51 PM Gulledge Commented he believes the streets are similar to a subdivision. Commented he would have liked them wider; however they did not have easements or right of ways to do it. Stated it has been a difficult process, and they are still acquiring right of way and easements. Commented some of the houses are very close to the streets and would affect them a lot if the Village wanted more. Stated they can raise the question. Commented his opinion is they have not made a mistake and the streets will be fine. Commented his opinion people will adapt and get used to parking in back. Commented his honesty in saying he has had a few people that don't like it, but a lot have told him they are fine with it. Commented right now it looks bad, as right now people are not pulling up on the foot on each side because they haven't poured up to the curb. Stated if the Board wants to change it, he does not know what they can do. Stated they spent over $400,000 to put a storm sewer system in and does not know what it would take to change that. Callahan asked what about the gutters. Gulledge responded he does not know, as he is not an engineer either; however he can ask.
7:42:49 PM Callahan Responded his opinion they need to check into it. Reiterated his point about the fact that Kostyshock tested the issue with the fire truck, which means he is worried too.
7:43:00 PM Gulledge Responded no, Kostyshock received a complaint and drove the truck through to prove it could be done.
7:43:15 PM Callahan Commented it is not like they could drive through at 60 mph. Commented on driving through on weekends and evenings when it is crowded, and many people are not parking there because it is so messed up.
7:43:29 PM Kostyshock Commented that is because it is under construction. Commented right now there is a big contour in the middle; they will cut all that down and once it is level with the curbs it will look better.
7:43:45 PM Callahan Commented he doesn't have problem with how it looks; it is not practical. Commented his opinion they will have to prohibit parking on one side of the street. Commented he does not know how to make that decision. Commented he knows some have parking alternatives, but believes there are also some that don't.
7:44:08 PM Gulledge Commented there is no one that does not have a parking alternative.
7:44:13 PM Kostyshock Commented the Village is offering to pour a driveway apron for any resident that would like one.
7:44:25 PM Limberg Commented when he lived in the area he could park two cars at the back of his house.
7:44:30 PM Callahan Questioned the condition of the alleys.
7:44:35 PM Gulledge Responded they know the alleys need work; however they don't want to do it now because of all the construction.
7:44:49 PM Callahan Stated he would like to check into the possibility of changing the curbing on the north side so they could pull up a little on the street.
7:45:01 PM Gulledge Stated they will ask the question.
7:45:11 PM Limberg Commented they cannot allow pulling up on the sidewalks, as they will crack.
7:45:14 PM Schmidt Commented that is why the Board went with six inch curbs.
7:45:18 PM Gulledge Commented that was exactly right, as it is protection for the kids and so they won't break sidewalks as they have been broken in the past.
7:45:24 PM Schmidt Commented they should ask Juneau if it would be possible to consider moving the storm sewers on one side.
7:46:21 PM Wigginton Asked where will they move it; will they buy right of way from all these residents.
7:46:23 PM Gulledge Commented some of them couldn't sell it even if they wanted to, as there is not enough.
7:46:29 PM Callahan Commented they may need to eliminate a sidewalk on one side of the street and put the storm drain under where the sidewalk was going to go. Commented they need to look at alternatives.
7:46:47 PM Gulledge Stated he will ask Juneau to attend the next Caucus meeting and discuss the issue.
7:46:58 PM Callahan Commented his daughter asked him to ask what the procedure is for Bauer Lane residents to pay their tap-on fees once the sewer district goes into effect.
7:47:20 PM Gulledge Responded it is whatever they work out, which is what the residents were told before. Commented he does not think they will make them pay any earlier than they make the tap, just as they do for new construction. Asked for further comments from Callahan. He had none. Went to Kostyshock.
7:47:48 PM Kostyshock Commented they finished the pavilions at the park, which look nice, and the benches are done.
7:48:10 PM Gulledge Went to Mayor's comments. Reiterated a Board policy from several years ago that they do not allow election signs on municipal property. Confirmed the Board wants to continue this policy. All agreed. Next, commented Schmidt has been working with AT&T on their Project Light Speed. Commented the representative will be here to meet on the 11th.
7:49:08 PM Schmidt Responded they met with Mark Blakeman yesterday, who brought down a map of the coverage area. Stated they are giving attorney the opportunity to read the contracts and would like him to attend a meeting in the near future. Stated an AT&T representative will attend the next Caucus meeting on April 11th to discuss the project and answer questions.
7:50:21 PM Gulledge Stated he received a call from Gary Ceretto regarding the Easter Egg hunt, requesting the use of the property in front of the Village Hall. Stated the event will be held Saturday, April 7th at 11:00 a.m. All were in favor. Commented on a letter received from Chuck Tenant regarding the sewer cost relief for lawn sprinklers. Stated they will review his comments and talk to the Public Works Committee about it. Asked Drake to convey this to Tenant.
7:51:38 PM Gulledge With no further business to come before the meeting, asked for a motion to adjourn. Motion was made by Schmidt and seconded by Kostyshock. Voting on the motion: Limberg - yes; Schmidt - yes; - yes; Callahan - yes; Kostyshock - yes; Garcia - yes. Motion carried.
7:51:58 PM   The meeting ended.

Respectfully submitted,

Thelma Long, Village Clerk

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