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Village of Maryville, Illinois

Description Caucus Minutes
Date9/8/2004 Location Council Chamber
Time Speaker Note
6:30:34 PM Gulledge Called the Caucus meeting for Wednesday, September 8, 2004 to order and asked those in attendance to join in the Pledge of Allegiance. After the Pledge, he asked for a roll call of those officers present. Answering the roll call were Trustees Limberg, Schmidt, Bell, Kostyshock, and Garcia. Trustee Callahan was absent. Also in attendance were Clerk Long, Attorney Wigginton, Police Chief Schardan, Water & Sewer Superintendent Presson, and two reporters.
6:31:42 PM Gulledge Called for approval of the minutes of the August 25th meeting. He asked if there were any questions, additions or subtractions to the minutes. There were none. He asked for a motion to have the minutes placed on file. Schmidt made the motion, and Kostyshock made the second. Voting on the motion: Limberg - yes; Schmidt - yes; Bell - yes; Kostyshock - yes; Garcia - yes. Motion carried.
6:32:23 PM Gulledge Asked Chief Schardan to report his findings on the research he has done concerning some e-mails that residents on Keebler Oaks have sent to him and several of the trustees. The e-mails are requesting a stop sign on Keebler Oaks and Pin Oak, also they want the speed limit lowered to 25 mph. He explained that as the ordinance states, he has asked Chief Schardan and Street Superintendent Mann to look at this situation and report their findings.
6:33:00 PM Schardan Began by saying he has given a copy of his report to each trustee in their packet. He said he got most of the information from the Uniform Traffic Control Devices manual. He cited a recommendation and a warning from the book about the use of stop signs. He talked about a study that has been done by W. Martin Bretherton. In that study, Bretherton found 71 different survey studies concerning stop signs and speeding. Schardan said some of the key points for reasons why there should not be a stop sign at the intersection in question. There have been no traffic accidents, visibility is not a problem, it would not minimize the number of vehicles stopping. He said the manual recommends that the traffic that should stop is the road carrying the least amount of traffic. This would be Pin Oak, it wouldn't be Keebler Oaks. He commented that this is where it is now. Keebler Oaks is the major street compared to the other streets in the subdivision. Also there is already a three way stop at Keebler Oaks and Oak Leaf Drive. The traffic flow is below recommendations of where a stop sign should be placed. He said West Main will be opening, and he feels the Board should wait to see if this will alleviate a lot of the traffic. He said these are the reasons why he believes there should not be another stop sign. He talked about safety of the children . He said Bretherton said the research materials shows that stop signs, especially four way stop signs, make it more dangerous for children. The children think the cars will stop, and often end up injured because the car didn't stop.
6:36:45 PM Bell Asked Schardan if he had talked to any of residents in this area. He said he thought that two weeks ago when the Board discussed this, they talked about reducing speed limit to 25 mph.
6:37:12 PM Schardan Answered that in one of the studies Bretherton did, the reduction of speed limits generally does not slow the traffic down. People will usually travel at a speed they think is safe. He doesn't think it would make any difference to reduce the speed limit. He commented that another important factor is the ability to enforce these things.
6:37:42 PM Garcia Commented that they are hoping when West Main opens, there will not be a problem.
6:38:06 PM Bell Said it will cut down a lot of the traffic. He said he thinks the resident's thoughts were for a stop sign and it would slow the traffic coming of Keebler. He commented that he received the initial e-mail and he told the people they would address it at the Board. He said two weeks ago, the Board was in favor of lowering the speed limit. He asked if there is a good reason not to lower the speed limit to 25 mph.
6:38:57 PM Schardan Answered that it is not going to make a difference, because people are going to travel at what they feel is a safe speed. He said the same goes for stop signs. If people think it is an unnecessary stop sign, they are not going to stop. And, also what they do to make up for the time they had to stop is drive faster.
6:39:27 PM Bell Commented that basically if the officers write a few tickets to people traveling 30 mph in a 25 mph zone it will slow the traffic for a while. He said he feels that Keebler Oaks is a subdivision street and should be 25 mph.
6:39:50 PM Limberg Commented that the speed limit in his subdivision is 25 mph, and very few people abide by it.
6:40:56 PM Bell Said he thinks that most people think it is safe to go five miles per hour over the speed limit, so people are going 35 mph.
6:41:34 PM Gulledge Said he wants to be sure he understands Chief Schardan's recommendation. He asked Schardan if his recommendation is that it is his opinion that a stop sign is not needed on Keebler Oaks and Pin Oak, east and west. Schardan replied this is correct. The other thing in his recommendation is that he doesn't think the speed should be reduced from 30 to 25 mph on Keebler Oaks Drive.
6:42:00 PM Schardan Replied this is correct. He said in looking into this, the way the manual recommends doing the speed limits is to do an engineer's traffic study and place the speed limit at the average speed of the traffic. The manual suggests 85% of the average speed.
6:42:38 PM Kostyshock Commented that they are going to open West Main next Tuesday or Wednesday. They have started pouring the driveways and sidewalk on the south side.
6:42:53 PM Garcia Suggested waiting until West Main is opened, and if there is still a problem, they will address the speed limit, or the officers can sit out there and give the neighbors tickets.
6:43:16 PM Gulledge Said he knows several people who live there. One lives on Keebler Oaks drive, one lives on Pin Oak and one lives on the street where the current stop sign is. All three of them do not see a need to reduce the speed. His point is, for every person the Board would make happy, someone would be angry. He commented that if the Board is going to do this, the tone should be set now. If there has to be a traffic study done, then have it done. He said probably in a week or ten days West Main will be open. He agrees they should wait to see what happens then.
6:46:39 PM Limberg Commented that he worked out there, and some of it is construction workers, but a lot of it is the residents.
6:47:06 PM Bell Commented that one thing that adds to the problem is trucks parked on both sides of road.
6:47:31 PM Gulledge Answered that the no parking signs were taken down.
6:48:04 PM Bell Commented that he considers Keebler Oaks as a subdivision street.
6:48:21 PM Gulledge Said he is not disagreeing that it is in the subdivision, but it is a collector road from Pleasant Ridge Road to Keebler Road.
6:48:48 PM Bell Talked about the stop sign at Andra and Rolling Meadows. He said it is about fifty feet from West Main, and there is a three way stop sign. He said if he was arguing the case, he would ask what is up with that sign, when one will not be put on Keebler Oaks and Pin Oak Drive.
6:49:12 PM Gulledge Answered he was on the Board when that sign was installed. It was put up because West Main was closed from the school, Renee, over to Rolling Meadows entrance. This is where all the traffic came from. There were several fender benders out there.
6:50:31 PM Bell Commented that he is in favor of waiting until West Main opens up, but he doesn't want to drop the idea of reducing the speed.
6:50:40 PM Gulledge Asked each trustee what they wanted to do. The first issue was the stop sign. Limberg replied no stop sign. Schmidt prefers to wait until West Main opens, and then he will re-evaluate the problem. Bell agreed with Schmidt. Kostyshock said wait until West Main is open. Garcia agreed. He said he will call the people tomorrow. He went to item 5 on the agenda, Ordinance to Change Utilities for Use of Public Right of Way, and asked Juneau to discuss it.
6:51:19 PM Juneau Said he has spoken with Mayor Gulledge about an ordinance that was passed in Madison regarding utilities using public right of ways for transmission of their utilities, such as gas mains, cable TV, power companies. They are all the time digging up the roads doing different improvements to their utility system. He said the City of Madison passed an ordinance setting fees and basing the cost of the fee to be assessed based on the length of the utility lines using city rights of way. He said it compensates the community for some of the disruption of the city rights of way. It also covers some of the ongoing costs of the disruption. He said he just wanted to pass this on to the Village for consideration.
6:53:44 PM Schmidt Asked Attorney Wigginton if has seen the ordinance.
6:54:02 PM Wigginton Replied that he saw this a long time ago. He didn't realize it was still in effect.
6:54:55 PM Gulledge Said the reason this was on the agenda is he wanted the Board to make a decision if Attorney should research this. He said he didn't want the attorney to start on this if the Board is not interested in doing something with the ordinance.
6:55:59 PM Bell Asked about the length the ordinance is talking about. He wanted to know if fee is based on the length of the line or the "2640 feet under the right of way".
6:56:14 PM Juneau Answered it would be the length occupying the Village's right of way.
6:56:51 PM Wigginton Responded that they shouldn't put a lot of confidence into this ordinance, because it was really passed with one particular fiber optic company coming through Madison at that time. He said he doesn't have a lot of confidence in this particular ordinance. He said he does agree with Juneau, he thinks the Village can implement an ordinance that allows recover costs incurred directly because the utility comes in to occupy the right of way. He said this will require a lot of research on different statutes to make sure passage of one act doesn't violate another statute.
6:58:10 PM Garcia Asked if this for a utility company that puts its lines in the Village right of way. And, if they have to move it, wouldn't it be their cost, not the Village. Why would the Village charge them.
6:58:30 PM Wigginton Answered they would have the direct cost, but there is indirect costs that are passed on to the Village, for example, if they take on a voluntary movement, or voluntarily upgrade their system, that requires them to coordinate their work with the Village, which requires the Village to coordinate with the Village Engineer.
6:58:41 PM Gulledge Commented if they don't clean up their mess, then he has to get the attorney involved in it.
6:58:45 PM Wigginton Told Garcia she is right, that if they are going to be forced to move or upgrade their system, they would be responsible for the direct cost. He said what they are looking at is recovering the consequential costs as a result of their actions.
6:59:10 PM Gulledge Commented that they should not be looking at the numbers in this ordinance, because that is not what this is about. He said they are looking at not losing anything.
6:59:15 PM Kostyshock Asked if they are talking about all utilities.
6:59:25 PM Wigginton Answered that they are talking about actions taken within the municipal right of way, whether it is a utility, contractor, or whatever. If they are using the public right of way, it is the Village's right to recover the expenses.
6:59:58 PM Gulledge Asked the trustees if they wanted to go forward with having the attorney research this. All the trustees said yes. He went to the next item on the agenda, Sanitary Sewer Connection. He talked about some sewer lines being too low, thus causing sewers to back up into the homes. He said they have talked about how to remedy this. Juneau started looking at the ordinances, and there is something on the books, and he wanted Juneau to come and explain the ordinance.
7:01:12 PM Juneau Explained the ordinance that is on the books. He said it essentially says the basement floor elevation for new construction should be three feet above the top of the sewer line. He said this means there has to be a three foot difference between the top of the sewer line and the basement floor elevation. This was done with the intent of protecting the basement from being flooded. He said if the case is that the three foot elevation cannot be maintained, the ordinance dictates that the basement drain system be pumped, a sump pump be put in the basement, and the floor drains coming from the basement facilities be pumped to the sanitary sewer. He thinks this is a good safeguard, because sometimes in new construction, the builders are not paying close attention to the elevation, and they are building the basement floor too close to the elevation of the sewer. The sewer becomes clogged, and the result is a flooded basement. There have been several places in Maryville where this has happened. He said he thinks it is a good practice to get into to make sure the elevation is three feet.
7:04:17 PM Kostyshock Commented that he checked into this thoroughly. There are 2500 to 3000 homes, when the sewers were first put in the mid 50's, and to date, to his knowledge there have been three or four problems. He said he thinks to add this cost on to individuals, the homeowner is going to pay for it. He feels this is "over kill". There are some instances where a grinder pump is needed, and there are some towns, such as Granite City, ones that are lower, where he could see they would need them. He doesn't think it is needed in Maryville.
7:05:22 PM Gulledge Answered that he doesn't think Juneau is saying that everyone should do this. It is just the people that are less than three foot off the basement floor to the sewer main.
7:05:43 PM Juneau Said new houses and new subdivisions would have to meet this criteria if they don't have a three foot elevation difference.
7:05:48 PM Gulledge Said his question to Juneau is, that isn't most of the sewers deep enough where most houses wouldn't have to do this.
7:05:55 PM Juneau Replied that most are, but in some cases it is not. He said he has a grinder pump in his own house. He said he is virtually guaranteed that his basement will not have a sewer backup. He talked about the three homes on Donk Street that recently had the sewer back up into their basement. Upon checking into the matter, he said all three should have had a grinder pump installed to pump up to the sewer.
7:07:47 PM Gulledge Commented that this was missed, they just didn't catch it. He said it is in the ordinance book.
7:08:01 PM Wigginton Commented that it was put in there not only to protect the homeowners from the possibility of sewer back up in their basement, but also to provide protection to the Village, because the Village is the first to be blamed for flooded basements. This gives the Village another defense in the event that a sewer backup in the basement, and the contractor did not follow the ordinance, the Village can point to the contractor for not following the guidelines set forth.
7:08:52 PM Gulledge Asked Juneau what the price is for a grinder pump.
7:09:00 PM Juneau Replied about $2500. 00, but in new construction probably around $700.00.
7:09:21 PM Kostyshock Commented, that as he previously said, in fifty years there have been three homes back up. He doesn't see the need to do this. It should be rewritten to take care of problems like this. He said with a three foot drop, the sewer is going to run three-quarters up the wall, it will be out in the open, with the grinder pump, it will increase the electricity consumption causing higher bills, etc. He said if there was a big problem, perhaps this would be okay, but he doesn't feel the Maryville has a big problem.
7:09:58 PM Bell Commented to Juneau that he is recommending this for new houses, what is the criteria for the older houses.
7:10:07 PM Wigginton Said this must be clarified. It is not whether or not this should be done, it is already in the ordinance. The question is whether to repeal the ordinance or enforce it.
7:10:21 PM Gulledge Commented that is why he wanted this discussed, he knows Kostyshock feels strongly about this. He thought the best thing to do is let everyone have a chance to discuss it.
7:10:36 PM Kostyshock Said the way the sewers are set up now, the depth, it is going to be over fifty percent, or possibly sixty or seventy percent that will have to put in a grinder pump.
7:10:39 PM Gulledge Asked if it wouldn't be better now, if they know up front, that their basement might flood.
7:10:46 PM Kostyshock Said there have been only a few problems in the last fifty years, now everyone will be penalized $700.00 or $2500.00. This goes to the buyer, not the builder.
7:11:03 PM Garcia Asked if a grinder pump keeps the sewer from backing up into the basement.
7:11:18 PM Juneau Explained the way a grinder pump works.
7:13:04 PM Limberg Commented the only draw back with a grinder pump is making sure the pump doesn't burn out.
7:13:43 PM Schmidt Asked Juneau if the insurance companies takes this into consideration when they figure rates to the homeowners.
7:14:10 PM Juneau Replied not that he is aware of. He said they do have additional riders that is available to anyone.
7:14:34 PM Kostyshock Commented that he can see putting this in a home that needs it, but the three foot drop he feels is over kill.
7:14:53 PM Bell Asked Kostyshock what his recommendation would be.
7:14:58 PM Kostyshock Replied it would be less than three feet.
7:15:02 PM Juneau Discussed the fact that now everyone wants deep basements. The builders are not paying attention to the elevation. They are not shooting grades, they are running the sewer directly out and into the sewer main.
7:15:44 PM Garcia Asked if anyone checks this, and if they do, why don't they catch it.
7:15:55 PM Gulledge Replied that it was just missed. It is on the books. Flaugher didn't realize it, he didn't realize it either. Juneau caught this when the Third Street problem came up.
7:16:31 PM Bell Commented that he thought the Village only inspected to the point of the sewer tap, not the lateral going to the house. He thought the rest was County or State.
7:16:35 PM Wigginton Replied this is inside the house. The Village has an ordinance with respect to this.
7:17:10 PM Gulledge Said the question here is does the Board support this, or want to take it off the books, or modify it. He asked each trustee what they wanted to do.
7:17:31 PM Limberg Replied he needs to think about it a little more. He wants to study the elevation. He asked Juneau if thought three feet was too much.
7:18:29 PM Juneau Replied three feet. He said he got this from the ordinance that was passed in Fairview Heights. Glen Carbon's is also three feet.
7:18:41 PM Presson Suggests lowering the three foot to two foot.
7:18:55 PM Wigginton Said the Village should keep this type of ordinance on the books, and it should be enforced.
7:19:22 PM Garcia Commented that the Village pays Juneau to recommend what is best for the town, and if he recommends something she thinks they should accept it.
7:19:53 PM Gulledge Asked the trustees again what they wanted to do.
7:20:14 PM Limberg Replied he will go with Juneau's recommendation.
7:20:20 PM Schmidt Said he wants to read what is on the books, and study it more.
7:24:14 PM Bell Said leave it as it is.
7:24:30 PM Kostyshock Said he wants to take it off the books and do it on an as needed basis.
7:24:43 PM Garcia Said she wants to leave it in.
7:24:53 PM Gulledge Said they will keep the ordinance as it is, and they are going to make sure that the inspections are done. He will have Flaugher to make sure when builders come in for a permit, they are made aware of it. He went to the next item on the agenda, 2004 MEPRD Grant Application. He said he asked Juneau to talk about this in case there were any questions.
7:24:58 PM Juneau Said the proposed project that the Village is applying for a grant from the Metro East Park & Recreations District is a new restroom to be constructed on the south end of the park near the existing walking path, and where the lake dam is, right near the existing parking lots that are located on Parkview Drive, adjacent to the bike trail. There is a turn out that goes to the park. The restroom would be constructed there. It would be almost  exactly the same design and layout as the current restroom in the park, with the exception that the fixtures would be stainless steel. Also proposed as an enhancement is that the roof of the restroom would be rotated ninety degrees from where it is now and extend out to the sides of the restroom to be a pavilion. The restroom, because it is very far from the existing water and sewer facilities, will have to have the water and sewer extended to the facility. Water will come from Parkview, the sewer will be taken across the park and discharged into the sewer that serves the current restroom. It will have a grinder pump serving the restroom and a forced main all the way to the existing restroom site. Twenty-two parking spaces will be added to the existing parking area. He said as Mayor Gulledge has pointed out, there are no restrooms on the apex through the extensive miles of bike trails to serve the bikers on the trails. He said this will be a real enhancement to the bike trail system, and also serve the playing fields and park. There is a public hearing at 6:30 p.m. next week.
7:29:26 PM Gulledge Said if anyone wanted to come a little early next Wednesday, the public hearing is at 6:30 p.m. and Juneau will have the exhibits, etc. here. He talked about the price. He said they increased the price on the Village's part. He said they have met with the park committee and they are behind this project. It will not only service the people using the walking trail, it will also service the people using the east side of the park. He thinks this is a good project, and financially it is doable. There is money in the Public Comfort fund that can be used for this type of project. All the figures are not in, but should be by next Wednesday.
7:30:25 PM Juneau Said there will be three-tiered drinking fountains, the lower one for dogs. He is looking for letters of support to include in grant. He has attached two resolutions to be ready to pass at the next Board meeting.
7:31:20 PM Gulledge Said this must be done at the next meeting. The grant has to be in by September 30th, by 3 p.m.
7:32:08 PM Bell Asked Juneau if the restroom would have the "lean-to" on the side as they had discussed previously.
7:32:18 PM Juneau Said that the Mayor was going to have an architect work on this.
7:32:20 PM Gulledge Replied they have to get the grant put together first.
7:33:00 PM Juneau Commented on the Drost Park Lake Dredging. He said it is going very well. He asked if there was a pay request submitted.
7:33:17 PM Gulledge Replied he received it today, and has made copies for the trustees.
7:33:46 PM Garcia Asked about the hole they dug, and the water that is going into the hole. She asked if eventually the water was going back into the lake. She wanted to know if there was any way they could leave about a foot of water there, so that this winter there could be an ice skating rink.
7:33:52 PM Gulledge Replied that there is not enough freezing weather for this. He said he is hoping there is no water left when they are finished. He asked if anyone had anything else for Juneau.
7:34:55 PM Bell Commented that he wants to set up a monthly GIS meeting and would like Jared to support it. and what days would be good for him.
7:35:08 PM Juneau Said Jared would attend the meetings.
7:35:34 PM Gulledge Thanked Juneau for coming to the meeting. He next discussed a weed eater donation to the SWAP program. He said they do not charge for their services when they come out to work. They sometimes ask for donations of equipment. They are in need of weed eaters. He asked the Board if they were agreeable to the Village purchasing two weed eaters. He said the one they use is an FS85 Stihl. Emils gave a price of $287.96 each, and Rural King gave a price of $319.99 each. He asked the Board to allow the purchase of two. He asked the trustees, and they all agreed.
7:39:31 PM Kostyshock Talked about sprinkler systems in yards. He said a lot of people are watering their lawns with these sprinkler systems. They get a $400 to $500 water bill for two months, and the customers are asking to have the water they use on the yard separated from the water they use in their homes. He said there is no way to do this at this time. He asked Presson to tell the Board his opinion.
7:40:06 PM Presson Said there are a couple of ways the Village could do this. He said he has suggested this to some of the people. They could pay for a separate tap on fee at a reduced rate. There are a couple of other options, none of which are financially viable right now. One guy suggested someone come out to read the meter every time he calls them when he waters the lawn, and when he is finished, read it again. He talked about having a separate line for the sprinkler system. He said most people feel the tap-on fee is too high for them to recoup their money.
7:41:44 PM Gulledge Commented that he understands this, but how can this be differentiated from the resident that doesn't have a sprinkler system but washes his car, waters his lawn, etc. He said this problem occurs every year. He doesn't know what to do other than what is being done.
7:42:13 PM Kostyshock Commented that one water department gives a separate meter, at a lower cost for the sprinklers.
7:42:33 PM Schmidt Asked if the sprinklers operate on timers, and why give them a break if they can shut it off.
7:43:08 PM Gulledge Said they want the Village to give them a break. He said some of the things they tell him is just charge what their average bill is, and anything over the average, don't charge for the sewer.
7:43:13 PM Bell Commented that the Village does allow a break for swimming pools, if they have someone come out to read the meter before and after the pool is filled.
7:43:27 PM Limberg Commented that it would be a nightmare. In his neighborhood, there are about four houses that have the sprinkler system, and the rest do not, but they still water the lawn. How could this be differentiated.
7:44:07 PM Gulledge Commented again that he doesn't know any other way to do this. He said the ordinance states that these charges cannot be separated, and if they want it separated for a sprinkling system, then they must pay for a separate water line tap. He asked the trustees if they want to keep doing this the way they are. All the trustees agreed to leave it as is.
7:45:18 PM Gulledge Went to Trustee Comments, Calendar Updates.
7:45:35 PM Bell Commented there is a rabies clinic scheduled for Saturday, October 9th from 9:00 a.m. to Noon. The Outreach Fest is Saturday, September 25th, the Concert in the Park is Sunday, September 19th at 2:00 p.m. Also the last day to register to vote is October 5th. The Midland Big Trash Pickup is October 25,26, and 29 on the normal trash day.
7:47:49 PM Gulledge Went to the To Do List page 1. He commented that he had asked for volunteers to serve on some committees in the Village Newsletter, and several people have called in response to his request. He went to page 2.
7:48:42 PM Bell Commented on page 1, the GIS Meeting. He asked Presson what day would be good to have a monthly meeting. The people he wants to attend the meeting are Himself, Jared Collier of Juneau Associates, Pat Presson, Kevin Flaugher, Melissa Bailey, Chief Schardan, Jolene Henry, and Gary Mann. After discussing Wednesday as the meeting day, Mayor told Bell that if he wanted Jolene to attend, It would have to be a Monday, Tuesday, or Thursday.  It was decided to meet on Monday.
7:50:05 PM Gulledge Went to page 2. There was nothing.  He went to page 3.
7:50:31 PM Limberg Commented that he has a call in to the person who handles reservations for the Nottingham Lodge. He is looking to set up a date in June, 2005 for the Employee Appreciation Day.
7:50:56 PM Gulledge Went to page 4. There was nothing to discuss. He went to Trustee Comments.
7:51:13 PM Schmidt Asked about the Comprehensive Plan maps.
7:51:29 PM Gulledge Answered that he has done the final check on the maps, and found several mistakes. He sent it back, and it is supposed to be here at 9 a.m. tomorrow.
7:51:52 PM Schmidt He asked if there has been anymore conversations on the assisted living project.
7:52:08 PM Gulledge Answered he is waiting for them to send him an agreement.
7:52:17 PM Schmidt He asked about the archery signs that were attached to the Village signs.
7:52:29 PM Gulledge Answered that the archery signs are coming down. The sign belongs to the State, and Flaugher talked to the owner of the archery signs. He said he didn't want to cause trouble, he will take the signs down.
7:52:44 PM Bell Talked about the annual maintenance renewal on the Firehouse Software used by the Fire Department. The cost is $595.00. This will be on the agenda next week.
7:53:58 PM Bell Reported that the Master Gardner building has been completed.
7:54:24 PM Kostyshock Commented that the first phase of the Micro Surfacing in Lin Hy is finished. The second layer will be put on tomorrow and Friday. He said it looks good. It looks just like asphalt. He said it will end up being about a half inch thick, and will last about six to ten years, depending on the traffic.
7:55:14 PM Gulledge Commented that Kostyshock invited other communities to come over and look at this.  He talked with some of them and they were very impressed. It is a possibility that he can get some of them to join in a joint participation next year.
7:55:46 PM Kostyshock Said West Main is finished. The sidewalk and driveways on north side are finished. They poured the one lane today, finished it, and have started on the driveways and sidewalk on the south side. Hopefully it will all be done next Tuesday or Wednesday. He talked about flowers in park. He said the Master Gardeners are doing a great job. The flowers are beautiful.
7:56:52 PM Garcia Talked about the overflowing trash bin belonging to the owner of the property on 159 just belong the viaduct on the east, coming into Maryville. She said this is the first thing a person sees when they come into Maryville. She asked if there isn't something that can be done.
7:57:24 PM Gulledge Answered there is an ordinance that states these trash dumpsters, etc. are to be enclosed. He said he will tell Flaugher to start enforcing it.
7:58:04 PM Wigginton Commented that they are supposed to be enclosed. But, also they way it has looked recently, it is a general nuisance ordinance. He said they have been warned before.
7:58:29 PM Limberg Said someone asked him if it is legal to have temporary basketball court in an alley.
7:59:09 PM Wigginton Answered it cannot be in an alley or public right of way. If it is on the alley the Village can have it moved. It must be on their property.
7:59:34 PM Gulledge He discussed the application for payment from O'Bryan Consulting in the amount of $39,656.00 on the lake dredging. If no one has a problem, it will be on the agenda next week. He talked about occupancy permits. He and the attorney have discussed this. He asked Attorney Wigginton to tell the Board what he thinks should be done.
8:01:19 PM Wigginton It is on the books, but they have been gathering more information as the Village has grown. He said at some point, it is going to have to be modified or enforced. It is not going to be removed entirely. It does needs to be addressed. It has been put aside for the last few months. He said he talked with the Mayor last week about what they want to do. Do they want him to continue to work on this or put it aside.
8:02:46 PM Garcia Asked about home inspections. When a house is sold, an inspector has to be hired to determine what needs to be done. Her question is why would they have to pay someone to come in to check it. It would be another expense to the homeowner.
8:03:18 PM Wigginton Explained that an occupancy permit is needed before a home can actually be occupied.
8:05:07 PM Gulledge Wants Attorney Wigginton to furnish the board with copies of the ordinances he has and the board will look over them. He said he feels this is a safety issue, not trying to penalize the owner.
8:05:59 PM Gulledge Commented that Clerk Long needs to know who will be accepting the invitation from Juneau so reservations can be made. He commented that in April of 2005 there is an election coming up for elected officials. If there are to be raises, it has to be passed six months before the person takes office. This will be on the Caucus agenda and To Do List. He said if there is nothing further to discuss, he would entertain a motion to adjourn. Limberg made the motion to adjourn and Schmidt made the second. Voting on the motion: Limberg - yes; Schmidt - yes; Bell - yes; Kostyshock - yes; Garcia - yes. Motion carried.
8:07:33 PM   The meeting adjourned.

Respectfully submitted,

Thelma Long, Village Clerk 

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